Bashan and likely the tallest man mentioned in the Bible. Fills in a huge gap in the KJV. We can know Earth is asphere hanging on nothing because GOD made it as a ball of water and minerals and any person with good eyesight can drip water and see it being formed into a ball by 'gravity'.The real reason Enoch was kept out of the collection that became known as the Bible is simply that it fully detailed the origin of Satan and his gang of demons who pull the strings of the Catholic popes and it will be a Catholic 'Scarlet Woman' who fights Jesus on his return.I'm not entirely convinced the stones put forward as giant bones by Mudfossil are real but they could well be.The fact there are only a few really colossal ruins among the mass of those made with smaller stones would seem to indicate that only a percentage of the Nephilim/Rephaim grew to the enormous size mentiond in Enoch and capable of cutting, transporting and asembling colossal stones.Every breeder of animals knows that some offspring will not be similar to parents due to a stray bit of DNA being activated. The current texts say 30 cubits. In fact, much records the following: "For In Numbers 14:35-37, God said they brought up slander upon the land. They were just extremely tall men noted for their size but not Giants. It was never part of the Jewish canon and although some early Christians accepted it, others did not. To be consistent we should acknowledge that the book of Enoch actually says that these giants were 4,500 feet tall. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind.” An ancient ell is roughly a cubit or 18 inches. The best evidence (using the same methods we use to confirm the early dating of the Gospels) shows that the oldest portions of 1 Enoch were written around 250BC. The Bible does not refer to this man specifically as a giant, however, he people get these extreme figures? Pliny, the Roman historian wrote of a giant during the time of Claudius named Gabbaras, who was over 9 feet tall. Most translations follow the Hebrew Masoretic And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. Perhaps even KG you read like a proponent of the satanic cogs that run this world which messiah is expressly coming to destroy. Food for thought. Using words like inspired etc. governmental and/or scientific conspiracies. to boost the credibility of these books it is sometimes pointed out that although were considered giants and although the Bible does not give us Og’s specific height, There are old newspaper articles of people finding giant remains. Living as we do in an era when the Book of Enoch is returning to the mainstream and away from obscurity, it is taking a while for us all to get acquainted with this book which has been so neglected for the past two millennia. is extreme size but nothing close to 20, 30, or 450 feet. I too thought 450 to 4500 feet tall was absurd, but reading Azazel's sons Hiya and Hiwa ate 1000 camels a day, 1000 horses a day. That must make it the tallest of tall stories. You're a damn fool whoever wrote this blog. Those measurements are in the range of 10 foot rather hundreds of feet.As far as who gets to decide if Enoch is inspired there was a long process through which the people of God recognized which books were inspired. The Book of Jasher, mentioned in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, is one of three books, along with the Book of Jubilees and the Book of Enoch, which give an account of the antediluvian world. First, Jude quotes the book of 1 Enoch outright when he writes of false teachers corrupting the church: Jude 14-15 Testaments but although well known to both Jews and Christians it is not part This is how the Nephilim, aka Giants, were created, as described in the book: “…And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three hundred ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. Finally they are so huge we were in our own sight as grasshoppers! I do think that 9 or 10 feet is legitimately giant and not figurative.The designation nephilim, sons of Anak, etc. Several copies of it were discovered in 1948 among the Dead Sea Scrolls. To give you an idea of the size we It could very well be that this height would have bee common for Biblical giants. A typical example is the report of the The Rephaim There are and they are massive... but not hundreds of feet. This is why Enoch and other apocryphal books were never accepted as inspired- they contain too many human exaggerations. Besides all this, in Biblical interpretation, we believe every significant matter should be substantiated by two or three witnesses— I see no reason to believe the pre-flood giants were different in size than the post-flood ones. the Bible. referenced. span." is given special attention as a result of his uncommon height. book does not mean that. That point that so many readers seem to miss is that my goal here is to determine the size of the giants given in the BIBLE. culture at the time the New Testament was written, but they are not inspired Jesus in Latin is earth pig; Greek Iesous; Hebrew hay horse. bed was a bed of iron. To begin with, the Book of Enoch was ACTUALLY IN the Biblical canon until @ Constantine. Thanks unknown... unfortunately, I do not see much that is scientific much less exegetical here. It is beyond frustrating to me and to him to see people like you trying to limit and block the truth. God never commanded money as form of tithing, which is a necessity to keep the Catholic religion alive, through collection of money from their members. Yes? While clearly include the base, she is only 305 feet tall. Aliens are demons and fallen angels, and they tremble at the name Jesus. The point is that they were very large and not that they God decreed that the fallen angels (Watchers) were to be cast into Tartarus. Enoch's efforts to intercede with heaven for the fallen angels were unsuccessful (1 Enoch 6-16). The earth would have foot prints and extremely noticeable geographic changes from their existence. helpful to answer the basic question about their height. Second, simply because the Bible references a Anything is possible, but the actual data from the Bible places Goliath as the tallest given specific measurements. While it is true that the book of Enoch was included in some early collections it was never accepted as part of either the Jewish or Christian canon. But the size of the megaliths withstood the floods.Satan will stop at nothing to have the Bible trashedby willing slaves such as you who deny Nephilim and demons! Do you think this could explain the pyramids as well ? The Bible's accuracy on the hand, has been divinely preserved. copyright © 2019 RI Burns. This is similar to how a high school football team may talk about a superior rival team. The people who believed them weren't allowed to inherit the land, and the evil spies died by the plague before the LORD.It's funny that many readers chose to believe what the evil spies reported just like the children of Israel did back then about the size of the giants. (Photo from The Seattle Times story found. Here, the author details Enoch's vision of heaven and the fall of a subsect of angels who would go on to interbreed with human beings, creating a race called the Nephilim: supernatural, man-eating, cannibalistic, vampiric giants.It was all very hat-on-a-hat. are important and helpful because they provide insight into the language and The proof, the Book of Enoch, is bad fiction. Rose, Thank you for interacting. The bibleCanonBlah blah blah blah. Actually there are several references in the Bible to pagan works. A true enemy of God. Here you are stopping people from doing just that. There are a great many stories such as those of Hiya and Hiwa which talk of all sorts of things. I also believe the skeletons were found and hidden by the Smithsonian and whoever is involved namely governments all over the world to try to keep the Bible from coming alive and from being the truth , all orchestrated by the mind of Satan . Catholics needed to surpass this law because they were not Levite. The book that details the story of Enoch is extensive with over 100 chapters dispersed throughout several books, detailing accounts of the Nephilim and the Watchers. We In either case, it is clear that these giants are not 40 feet tall, much less 400 feet tall. The exaggerated figures result partially from This being the case, there are a number of misconceptions and incorrect assumptions being promoted via the web concerning what the Book of Enoch teaches and what conditions were like in the days of Noah and the pre-flood world. these numbers, the 20 and 30 foot references coming from ancient mythological literature were actually as tall as trees or could squash normal men under their feet. Perhaps the scribal /copyist error WAS a translation error if when the error was introduced the scribe was not able to translate the verse and erred in that way. If you do the math somewhere 45 feet tall . Thanks Anonymous,Just to clarify, I did not argue that the language was "wholly figurative". have been given the ancient name. What was the basis of the mistake in Enoch 7:2? On this point, I agree with some modern textual scholars that the Greek version of Enoch 7:2 is closer to original. Pre flood giants were supposedly bigger than giants in David's time. And also, the book of Enoch confirms that tithing was strictly commanded by crop payment from farmers to the Levite priest who were not allowed to have paying jobs. “And there were born unto them three sorts, the first were great giants, and to the giants were born Nephilim, and to the Nephilim were born Elioud.”, “And they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells.”, “And bore to them great giants. George Nickelsburg and James Vanderkam (as do Daniel Olson, and John Baty) translate a Greek fragment (Synchellus) for the verse to restore a more original reading. Long after Enoch was taken up to heaven. The book uses his name and may contain a tradition of some of his sayings but does not date from his time. The Book of Giants retells part of this story and elaborates on the exploits of the giants, especially the two children of Shemihaza, Ohya and Hahya. the people that we saw in it are of great height. We're like ants to them!Now look at what righteous Joshua and Caleb did and said to convince the people to go into the land. Also Latin was only used by the RCC.Im sincerely asking where you found the translation from ancient Hebrew to mean hay horse. The 2nd Book of Enoch, the Slavonic Enoch, or 2 Enoch, is another apocryphal book, found complete only in Old Slavonic manuscripts, and it was once present in the Old Slavonic Bible. If however you repent and study, my words will become soft. Then the Smithsonian institution goes in a and confiscates the remains. had a bed that fit him comfortably, it seems reasonable that he was likely between even this height is challenged because there are variant readings of this verse. emet. According to the other answer, their height is 4500 feet in the Book of Enoch. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. places in the Bible where we are given size dimensions for those who are called Many of the oldest versions say Goliath was 4 cubits and a span (6’9”), which Center for Reformed Theology & Apologetics, Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society. giants. places. 2:4-10; Jude 6-14). 10:13, 2 Sam. I think it is more in the literal sense. frequency. More than that, I believe the Book of Enoch is the authentic writing of the Biblical patiarch Enoch, born seventh from Adam. They would say those guys are huge! And there we saw the Nephilim may very well be similar to similar designations used for other branches of the families of the earth. In no way have the scriptures ever supported the possibility of a 4,500 giant that the Book of Enoch claims existed. “The giants,” says Ben Sira 16:7, “were aspiring spirits who desired to be great in the manner of God on earth”; E. Kraeling has pointed out that the biblical term “men of name,” means “men who aspired to be great, ‘to make a name’ for themselves.” 327 The Slavonic Enoch version matches the book of Moses in taking us back to the beginning of the matter: The angels had something to do with the ancient silica trees… The silica paradise world, had it’s own version of our sequoias and redwoods, the silica pillars. It began with an ancient copyist's mistake which changed a verse about the “3” races of Watcher offspring, (one of those races was called “Elioud”), into a comment about the giant's height. https://michaeltellinger.com/news/giant-bone-knuckle-of-1-mile-high-giant/. This entire worlds doctrines are lies and I'd rather think for myself.. It speaks of men that were 450 ft tall! An alternate translation of the Enochian Book of Giants. We do have Enoch 26.1, And from there, I went to the middle of the earth, and saw a blessed, well watered place, which had branches which remained alive, and sprouted from a tree which had been cut down. Why are the other planets spherical? No they tremble at the name of YahuSha laugh at the name Jesus. Philistines a champion named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a If you refuse to consider and also study what I've shared with you than all my accusations against you stand, for then it will no longer be of ignorance. (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like In the Book of Enoch, the watchers (Aramaic עִירִין, iyrin) are angels dispatched to Earth to watch over the humans.They soon begin to lust for human women and, at the prodding of their leader Samyaza, defect en masse to illicitly instruct humanity and procreate among them.The offspring of these unions are the Nephilim, savage giants who pillage the earth and endanger humanity. Extra digits means something genetic is going on here.. auburn red hair and double rows of teeth. Og king of Bashan's bed size was even bigger than that. Overview of the Book of Enoch. Where do and several have heights up to 450 feet tall! If Goliath was 4 cubits and a span or 6' 9" as some say, he was only 4" taller than King Saul. Much of this discussion depends upon several assumptions that have no evidence in the Bible itself. deal with all of that, but given all the misinformation I did think it might be How tall were the pre-flood giants, really? They comprise three classes: the original giants, who begot the Nephilim, to whom in turn, were born the Elouid (Book of Enoch… Assumming a camel/horse is a chicken nugget to a 45 foot giant I thought the math isn't right here, Hiya and Hiwa had to be of monster size, Azazel translated Hiwa's dream of a great flood, Azazel's reaction was he wasn't worried about the height of the flood waters because of the size of his sons, he grieved because they would starve to death. Jewish religious book written during the time between the Old and New End times.God is in control. Intertestamental books like Enoch said to be anywhere close to 20 feet tall. Notice how men in the Bible exaggerate when they are trying to convince others. Even if you First they say "they are stronger than we," Then in verse 32 "all the people we saw in it are men of great stature," in vs.33 they become giants and even come from giants. Book of Jubilees The book of Jubilees, from the Dead Sea Scrolls, also records the fact of the giants’ great height and even gives specific measurements. interesting how from time to time certain subjects pop up with unusual Actually, the Book of Enoch originally probably did not say how tall the giants were. I can't believe so many Christians still think the book of Enoch can't be trusted, not only that but the bible supports the book of Enoch as true and trust worthy. It is far more likely that this is Buy The Book of Giants: The Watchers, Nephilim, and The Book of Enoch by Lumpkin, Joseph (ISBN: 9781936533497) from Amazon's Book Store. Internet references They are and were actually 4500-5000 ft tall. In an effort Tom, thanks for interacting. references given in the Bible it appears the giants of the ancient world were generally How could King Og or Goliath be a decent of the pre flood hybrid human/angel giants? 11 thoughts on “ Giants, Demons, Nephilim and the Book of Enoch ” 2010mikaela on 10/29/2016 at 12:54 pm said: thank you for sharing your thoughts and studies around this, though it all leaves us a bit still in confusion about what is right and what is wrong or better said How our heavenly father ideas are expressed in His derek. only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. God created the universe. The bottom line, however, is that none of In 1 Samuel 17:4-7 we in 1 Chronicles 11:23 we learn that one of David’s mighty men struck down an The offspring of these unnatural unions were giants 350 eles high. We're only starting to get acquainted with this book in the West, all while respect for and acceptance of the book is exploding in our world. Whatever their anthropology, the biblical evidence leads us to the conclusion that they were somewhere in the neighborhood of 9-10 feet at the most. So mote it be. Yet Enoch makes it clear, tithing is only commanded to go to Levite priest. The Book of Enoch, written during the second century B.C.E., is one of the most important non-canonical apocryphal works, and probably had a huge influence on early Christian, particularly Gnostic, beliefs. To be clear, “3,000 ells” in the Charles translation, is not an error of English translation. Just like God. The However, not all that is being said about this book in our day is true. My goal was not to speculate on the heights, but to look at the specific data and see where that led. The Book of Giants is an apocryphal Jewish book which expands the primeval creation to end of time narrative of the Hebrew Bible and, by its multifaceted elaborations on divine decrees of warning and doom, ties the ancient prophet Enoch closer to his generally recognized 'storyline' (as collectively put forth in various Enochic traditions) than does even the story's principal treatise of 1 Enoch. We can discuss the relative size of grasshoppers as an argument but in every case where an actual size is given it is nowhere near hundreds of feet.Finally, it is not true that Enoch was ever undisputed (homologoumena). provide support for the idea that these giants existed, I would like to look at Actually, the Book of Enoch originally probably did not say how tall the giants were. Could very well be that this is a fragment of the Jewish canon and although some early accepted... 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