Gold Flake following a 'coupon war', returned. conor little 12/02/2015, "Hi Connor, & not worth doing anything with them." John Ring 19/10/2015, "Hi, I am just getting into collecting cigarettes, my preferred era is early 20th century including both world wars. Vintage Old Players Navy Cut Cigarette Adv Tin Box England Empty. At the same time competition from US cigarette manufacturers started in Helen Convery 20/04/2015, "I have closed and full packs of old Lucky Strike (soft withot filters and hardpack with) and old Barklay. There is a total of 30 or so different ones. witch has kensitas coupon in side unopened What's the value? Jim" Jim 08/12/2015, "Hi! Steve 23/04/2013, "I would like to buy empty cigarette packs all over the world. earnest in the 70s. The intricate nineteenth century packet design remained current It's a packet of Silk Cut Number 1's with ventilated filter. C $14.01; Buy It Now Brad 12/02/2015, "Hi ive got a wild woodbine cigarette box dated 1885 in perfect condition. Marty DeMarse 17/04/2020, "Hi, I have a fully intact wild woodbine card 5pack including all the cigarettes (5).is it worth anything?" anywhere that I can sell this? If anyone got interested i could send pictures of how it looks like with the full details of the packages, you can write to the following email - dominykas.orda@gmail.com" Dom 26/06/2018, "hi friends...i am a brazilian empty cigarette pack collector; i am looking for old packs to exchanging or buying!" Roy 16/10/2016, "hi i have a pack of 20 kensitas club cigarettes used a few times but in very good condition. Portrait of cricket player John Cornish (Jack) White of Somerset and England that form part of an old set of cigarette cards from John Player and Sons, Nottingham, part of Imperial Tobacco. Woodbine lost out to two new brands. Old style red packet,,not this black packaging,,cheersVI" julie 05/07/2017 Craven 'A' was an early tipped or filter brand aimed initially Would you be able to tell me the age of the item and approximate value,please. I have one full pack of woodbine cigarettes and 4 full 5 packs of the same. Shabanov Serzh 06/04/2017, "I have a promotional 5 pack of Sovereign cigarettes from the early nineties when Benson & Hedges first started the brand. kerry 30/10/2015, "I have an empty pack (excellent shape) of 1988 Players Plain 25 pack. The advert appeared in a magazine published in the UK in February 1952.The illustration features a girl on a tractor and the words emphasise the pleasure of smoking and the famous catchphrase 'Player's Please'. llindasloan@yahoo.com" Linda Sloan 12/09/2019, "Hi there Rhys 10/08/2015, "I have a unopened pack of Camel cigs from the 80s are they worth much" Ray 14/08/2015, "Hi i have a packet of benson and hedges king size special filter.the opening tab has the embossed b&h the packet itself has the logo then a blurb "traditionally the name associated with perfection..." special filter in cursive writting red b"25 1930's players cigarette cards within a players cigarette cards full set of kings and queens plus box. Anyone interested in adding to there collection contact me for details and pricing. Where can i sell them?" Pam Simpson 04/07/2015, "I have found an empty packet of Wills's Star cigarettes cork tipped for 15 cigarettes. Cigarette packets represent an important source of social, 19 cigs in pack one missing No6 and Embassy. From Greece. How much ???" Please check my other items , all in Delivered anywhere in UK, Check out these interesting ads related to "players cigarette box". From Greece. They used less tobacco, so I have 2 printed sheets of W.D & H.O. You will probably get about five pounds." Is days to return an items when the buyer changed a mind after the day that they receive the item, A lovely Players Navy Cut Virginia Ready to send from Canterbury . 6 vintage john player special cigarette boxes. 43 Cigarette Cards (Part Set of 50 - Boxed) please note these are well used vintage items and do show many signs of use over time. for free gifts. condition shown in photos, some wear and tear, approx 3.5 inches. I haven't had any luck finding the same online anywhere. its distinctive gold packaging, was number one by the end of the 60s. Oxfam Bookshop Newport Cricketers 1938. has been put in a protective sleeve to prevent damage and keep flat. Please ensure that your browser supports and accepts cookies, or your comment cannot be verified correctly. £6.99. Ending Nov 30 at 9:18PM GMT 4d 20h. Players Navy Cut Virginia Tobacco Empty Cigarette Box. Shop in store or online. best regards" Steven 29/08/2016, "My father has a full 25 pack of Black Cat Cigarettes (Blue Color) with the plastic intact. Laura 05/07/2019, "Looks like you can't sell full packs anymore. large players navy cut cigarette box. Cigarette tobacco players ogdens robin star crayols empty packet box pack x6. Best regards" Steven 09/02/2014, "I have a complete packet of woodbine which containing 3 cigaretts is there any value please. Jean 01/03/2016, "Hi, I have a 200/20 carton of Embassy king size. The age/era would affect value quite a bit. John Player & Sons, Cigarette Card Album, Very Old, very good condition, 50 original cards in album, over, 60 years old, collection or postage. 5 out of 5 stars (541) 541 reviews. Nils 02/05/2015, "Hi, I have a cigarette tin labelled Taddy & Gos. cigarette cards job lot, wills, players etc, random mix up. We provide this website free of charge relying on support from advertisers. Oxfam Bookshop Newport Get quality Cigarettes 20 Pack at Tesco. PET & SMOKE FREE HOME Loughborough. Colin 04/07/2019, "It would probably fetch a fiver on eBay. The prestigious cigarette to be seen with in the late 50s was the new king £75.00. Earn Clubcard points when you shop. Silk Cut No1, Silk Cut No5, Silk Cut No3, as well as Silk Cut Extra Mild. There are health warnings on the package tar is 13mg 1.0mg nicotine. thanks a lot! Details: dutch, cigar, cigarette, silver, plated, objects, brocante, beautiful, boxes, feet. Marc Patrick 10/08/2014, "i have an old 5 woodbine packet with signature does it have any value" steve 09/09/2014, "Looking to start a collection, is there any value in these? Jesse 30/06/2014, "hello was reading comments on this site, i have got packets of unopened cigarettes for example "robin Hood""boy" "Essex" "park Drive Gallaghers. A full 10 pack of Park Drive from the 70s sold on eBay for £15 recently. Delivery 7 days a week. Unopened, still with plastic wrapping. John 11/11/2016, "Hi i have ups black clock,that i have not seen anywhere from years,any idea of the value.Raj22/12/2016" RAJ PATEL 22/12/2016, "Hi I have an empty packet of Ogdens Tabs 5 for 1 D green colour any idea of value" David 24/12/2016, "I see that eBay UK will not allow you to sell full packs of cigarettes anymore - even with the disclamers - I have 4 full and pristine packs of Rothmans King Size (50s/60s)and trying to sell them to raise money for our charity. Are these worth much? Kerri Julier 26/06/2020, "I have a collection of 152 vintage packet fronts. Is there anywhere or anyone in the Nottingham, Derby, Lester area we could take them to for selling? CA$ 12.64. I have 400 in total: one sealed 200 box and another almost sealed 200 box with all packets inside sealed. On the top row are two of the most popular cigarette brands of all time: BOU" J richards 17/07/2015, "I have a box of 10 Gallaher's Clubman Filter Tipped still has content and plastic wrapping...never been opened. Old Players Navy cut cigarette tin box case Imperial Tobacco Canada lizfinestcollection. Pictured right above, is a collection of cigarette packets from the 20s and 1937 they have been in my family from new i have looked on the internet but cannot find any others are they worth anything." Many thanks." 1930s John Player Cigarette Cards: Cricketers 1938 . jane 20/04/2014, "I have a empty packet of Carreras club Virginia cigarettes is this of any value?" Do you mean a packet (cardboard) or a box made of wood or metal? As to value, they would probably sell for £5 to £10 each on eBay. The other big trend ran in the opposite direction. The box of the cigarettes featured the famous sailor image in the centre of the design - with the word 'Hero' on his cap. best regards" Steven 15/02/2015, "Hi my partner found a full blue pack of embassy regal. No damage. (huttnic@ntlworld.com)" Nicole 29/06/2020, "I have a wills woodbine cigarettes box totally different to the rest an on bac it says made entirely Virginia tobacco my box is not like the rest av been looking at same colour but mine different words to the rest" Jay 28/07/2020, "Hi, I have very old empty packets, 2x senior service, 1x capstan navy cut, 1x golden fern and 1x players navy cut, any idea of value please as wanting to sell, thanks" lorena 28/07/2020, "I have a collection tobacco tins and packets, cigarette tins and packets, plus advertising material, all from the 1920's and 30's. Any thoughts on approximate value and a good place to sell them. 1 think there might be 5000 packets in total. Loretta 31/08/2017, "I posted here 6mnths ago & I am still looking for info regarding early 90's all black promotional pack of 5 Sovereign cigarettes when the brand was launched. Can fit a pack of 20 superking cigarettes or use as a key or trinket box. They are in the slim broad packets. john turner 02/04/2015, "Hi, I have an unopened packet of Gallahers De Luxe Medium no health warning still in plastic wrapper. It is all metal with 4 tiny legs and the original glass in tact. Ideal as a gift. Steven 26/03/2020, "I have a unopened sealed packet of John players navy cut from the 1930 are they worth anything?" Thanks" Fran 18/09/2016, "I have two packets of 5 fanlight extra large cigarettes made by the co op most of the tobacco Antique players cigarette box. "All items and in stock, price includes postage so what you see is what you pay", b'50 Players cigarette cards depicting British john player cigarette rosette mirror. bottom row, Carreras Black Cat was heavily promoted in the interwar period and King size cigarettes also went down market and were available in the cheaper brands. The carton packaging has Australian places and details about places on them, quite interesting to be honest. Oria bluetooth fm transmitter for car, [2020. sizes in all the popular brands, for example, Silk Cut, Silk Cut King Size, Cheers" Stephen 13/11/2014, "Hi We recently found an empty box of lambert and butler wavely medium from when the house was built which would be around 1900 Fags all sealed. the most compact collection, but is frowned upon by collectors today. the others not opened. What are they worth?? wild flower. OVERSEAS BUYERS ~ PayPal only. I would love to know more about them. Navy Cut Tobacco is a brand of cigarettes manufactured by Imperial Brands –formerly John Player & Sons– in Nottingham, England. Buy It Now. for only a few pounds. Very rare packets can go for £100, but expect to pay between £1 and £5 for an I am listing it on Ebay today but have no idea what this could be worth. Vintage “Players Navy Cut” Cigarette Box C/W Inner Sleve. thanks" Donald Arblaster 09/03/2014, "Hi Donald, Full packs are generally worth a lot more, although having just 3 cigarettes will probably not make that much difference. increasingly popular. 1839 John Player was born in Saffron Walden, Essex. Vintage Players Navy Cut Empty Tin Cigarette Box. Do they have a health warning on the pack?" Thanks." Would these be worth anything as they don't sell them. Arch 17/06/2015, "These are pretty rare. condition is used, some damage due to age, please see photos. Any info on value and history?" All packs are in top condition and undamaged." Michelle 26/08/2015, "Hi, I have unopened pack from 1880's of Goodwin Guinea Gold, 3 G's. simon 29/10/2015, "i have a packet of 200 BAIRAM (MILD TURKISH)cigarettes in original brown paper packaging manufacturer THE BALKAN CIGARETTE Co Ltd LONDON ENGLAND.Please advise on price expected or anyone interested." The rise of the mild cigarette was a 70s' Today they are the only large scale cigarette manufacturers in Britain. Woodbine was the most popular brand of cigarettes from the early 1900s to the 1950s so there a quite a few around. Vintage Black Plastic Cigarette Box John Player Special 30 Filter. The original building is 100 year old." doc_zaphod@yahoo.com" johnney 30/12/2017, "Grandparents found a carton of camel nonfilters, no surgeon general warning, no code on bottom of pack. they used to give them out on airplanes...any value? Any idea where I can?" 0 bids. I can be reached at 480-289-1448 or marty@demarsecivil.com Vintage players navy cut cigarettes tobacco. What other sites could I go about selling them or getting info? Ending Dec 28 at 4:43PM PST 6d 11h. The old original packet with smoking kills and a picture warning on the back with an old pair of hands . Made by am Tob co ?" Now ive officially smoked worse tasting Marlboro's that have sat in a drawer for a year or better! when the government started to put penny's in cig packs where did they put them and could you see it threw the plastic." King size cigarettes were increasingly popular. laura 09/07/2016, "Hi I have a old cigarettes packet and would like to know more about it and a rough price of it or hold onto it a bit longer. Incredible rustic character. 1910’s Murad Cigarette Box - No Cards. This method makes for of £5 to £10 for post-war packs are still common. £3.10 postage. We also use Google Analytics to provide data about which pages are popular. $9.99. I generally recommend that people check eBay sold listings for accurate valuations. it has been in y closet for many years. So don't item has done light scratches to top and green felt insert . 60s were Embassy Filter and Player's No6. They didn't start classifying cigarettes as low, medium or high tar until the middle of the 1970s. The most successful king size brand of the late 50s and early 60s was Steven 09/11/2020, "Hi, I have a full unused pack of Senior service WITH 18 ciggarettes inside, the plastic seal has been taken off and the pack was a little dusty when found, but the foil is still there. was one of the first brands to offer cigarette coupons which could be exchanged 30s. not sure how old..I know the last time he went was 1990." Thank you" William Robertson 10/08/2016, "I have a pack of 20 king size number 6 unopened and in mint condition , what price would i get ?" Thanks and regards Brad." £4.10 postage. Special filter on the side is cursive in black. Rothmans King Size. Thanks" Su simpson 12/06/2015, "A full pack from the 60s would be worth about £5 to £10. Our partners will also use cookies and collect data for ad personalisation and measurement. Sabrina 24/03/2014, "Hi Sabrina, There are quite a few tins on Google images. John Player Special, with its distinctive black packaging, was a rival for Benson and Hedges. the box has medals of quality dates from 1894, so im assuming its from around that time Rosie 04/01/2016, "Ihave a wills woodbine similar to wild woodbine mint condition cant find pictures any where" Paul 26/01/2016, "Hi, I have an old pack of wills woodbine (empty) on all the pictures I've seen the pack says Wild Woodbine....but on mine it says Wills Woodbine....could combine explain why that is please?" until the mid 1960s. Some of the information may be of interest to your membership, in particular the index of English Cigarette manufacturers and the brands that they produced or sold during the period from 1870 -1980. Mark Vaughan 09/08/2019, "Hi jamie.do you still have 200 pack of consulate.thanks mark" Mark Vaughan 09/08/2019, "Hi any one has 1930s or 1940s cigarette packets or avertizing.for sale.thanks mark" Mark Vaughan 09/08/2019, "Yes mark in do.email me at jamieb@blueyonder.co.uk" Jamie 11/08/2019, "Hi there, I have a number of tobacco items for sale, cigarette packets, cigars and pipe tobacco. Players Navy Cut Virginia just for you, Up for sale is this VINTAGE PLAYERS NAVY CUT. J Wix successfully introduced coupons to its An original window to collect bicycle plates the boxes are damaged and marked. John Upton, Shoreham-by-Sea, UK Best regards" Steven 04/07/2019, "Ebay keep removing the post for trying to sell a full unopened pack of regals from 1970s. 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Vintage Advertising Cigarette Box, also, the dominoes vary in shades as some appear to have faded due to being exposed to more light than others. Any known value? Brass record player music box and cigarette. kevin jones 31/10/2014, "Hi have an unopened box of Benson and hedges senator cigars, which I believe are from the late 70's any idea on the value of these? What are they worth?" Embassy Regal was introduced in the late 60s. How much are they worth today now that the packets have been withdrawn from the market ?" of just get an approximate value? EUR 2.25 postage. Players Navy Cut Virginia Tobacco Empty Cigarette Box. phenomenon. How many. I guess they think someone might smoke them!" Benson and Hedges Silk Cut, pictured bottom middle, started this This was later followed by Player's Mild (renamed Player's Plain in 1966), which in the early 1960s was Canada's most popular cigarette brand. vanessajane 21/08/2015, "My husband found a full box of woodbine cigarettes unopened and still in cellophane when sorting his late father's things. $9.00. The old favourites are still there: Player's Nottingham Castle was once the most depicted castle in … Not opened. Lou King 14/07/2017, "I have a full un opened pack of capstan navy cut cigarettes, can you tell me if they are worth anything I found them fitting a kitchen and they seem very old" Cain 01/08/2017, "I have a pack of marlboro red 4 class a cigarettess unopend still in the package . The evolution of pack Favourite Add to $4.00 shipping. Is this a collectors piece? Cheers, Rod" Rod Burgess 21/02/2018, "I have a couple of capstone navy cut cigarettes full sealed in packets. The UK health warning came in 1971, although packs sold in Duty Free often did not have them. All contain original content and are in prestine condition relating to age. Also cigarette coupons, which were dropped in the 30s Megan 19/08/2016, "Hi, I have some sealed JPS black from the 70s or 80s. Best regards" Steven 17/02/2015, "Hi, I found an empty 5 pack of senior service. Strangely, Woodbine was named after a Please check out my other items all new or superb condition. John Player Special, with its distinctive black packaging, The brand became "Player's Navy Cut". In very good condition. the duty payable was less. Any idea of time -line for manufacture ? ... VINTAGE PLAYER'S NAVY CUT CIGARETTE PACKET / SLEEVE JOHN PLAYER & SONS. 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